You are doing a great job at remembering to write your full name on the first line. Thank you for doing that. You are also doing very well on not repeating what someone else has said. This is good.
This week we will be reading Oedipus Rex. So, as usual, pick a line or lines from the play and explain why they are important to some aspect of the story: theme, plot development, character development, and so on. Again, don't repeat what someone else has written.
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Will Quattlebaum
ReplyDelete"The man you have been looking for all this time...to your mind he is foreign-born, but it will soon be shown that he is a Theban...A blind man who has his eyes now; a penniless man, who is rich now...to the children with whom he lives now he will be brother and father-the very same; to her who bore him, son and husband-the verysame who came to his father's bed, wet with his fathers blood." (25)
This is a very important quote in the book. This quote explains who the killer of Laios is. It tells that the murderer is the brother and son of Oedipus' children, son and husband of Oedipus' wife, and who sleeps in Oedipus' father's bed with his father's blood. Basically, Oedipus. Also, the murderer is someone who is thought to be foreign born is really from Thebes, which also is Oedipus because he thinks he isn't from Thebes, but really is. This is extremely important to the plot, because this explains the book.
Sarah Hale!
ReplyDelete“You weave your own doom.” Pg. 21
I love this quote because it stands as a metaphor for what appears to be the entire story. Since the book opens up with a heated discussion between Oedipus and the prophet Teiresias, Teiresias basically reveals Oedipus’s fate. Oedipus being completely ignorant towards these portentous events and refusing to believe a word Teiresias says, can’t even see the fact that he “weaves his own doom.” We see this doom by the way he’s married to his mother and apparently unknowingly killed his own father, Laios! The only problem is, is that Oedipus isn’t aware of the relations between who he thinks of his wife, and murdered father. Thus, this and the disbelief he expressed towards Teiresias, allows him to “weave his own doom” for the entire story. I believe the rest of the book will be we as an audience watching and analyzing the actions of Oedipus, has he reveals his terrible fate.
Anna Billmaier
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"Listen to me. You mock my blindness, do you?/ But I say that you, with both your eyes, are blind:/ You can not see the wretchedness of your life,/ Nor in whose house you live, no, nor with whom./ Who are your father and mother? Can you tell/ me?" (page 22)
This is when Teiresias is talking to Oedipus. I think that this is an important part of a book because to me it seems like Teiresias is mocking Oedipus. Teiresias knows more than Oedipus, just like we, the audience, do and Teiresias uses this information he has to make fun of Oedipus in a way. To me this is important because it shows how oblivious Oedipus is to things and I think this will become more and more important later on in the book as Oedipus begins to become more and more aware of his life and the irony of everything in it.
Laura Ahlrep
ReplyDelete"But I came by, Oedipus, the simple man, who knows nothing- I thought it out myself, no birds helped me! And this is the man you think you can destroy..." (22)
This quote is taken from when Oedipus is trying to defend Teiresias's foresight on the fact that Oedipus is the true murder of the king. This is a good quote to show Oedipus's personality, that he believes that since he was the one to win over the Sphinx's riddles then he could never be a murderer or even thought lowly of. It's funny how this self belief of that if you have power or a title back in this age that you could never do harm and you were perfect compared to the average man. This belief of ultimate greatness is always a downfall to most characters in mythology or other modern stories.
Crystal Nybo
ReplyDelete"Each of you suffers in himself alone his anguish, not another's; but my spirit groans for the city, for myself, for you." (pg 5)
I feel like this quote is very ironic in itself. When I first read the quote it made it seem like he was the savior and that he would be the solution to everyones problems. But, as the book went on this passage shows how little Oedipus actually knew about the situation and of his falling troubles to come. This quote is important in showing the reader his minds innocence at the moment in the book. As the book spans out I can see how this quote is going to change and how Oedipus will come to face with the truth.
Kiera Wesley
ReplyDelete"No; I will never tell you what I know. Now it is my misery; then, it will be yours"(Teiresias, pg 18)
This quote forshadows what is about to happen in the play. Even though Teiresias does end up telling Oedipus what he knows, he realizes that he will only be hurting himself if he tells Oedipus the truth about the situation. He is wise and knows that even though the burden of the truth is on his own shoulders at the moment, Oedipus is the one who is ultimately doomed.
Derek Decker
ReplyDelete"How strange a shadowy memory crossed my mind, just now while you were speaking; it chilled my heart." - Oedipus, pg. 39
This passage shows a very significant change in Oedipus. Previously, he has denied that he had anything to do with the regicide for which Thebes is being punished. So convinced of this was Oedipus that he accused his close friend and brother-in-law/uncle Creon of treason. But here, after his wife/mother Iocaste tells him about the murder of Laios at a fork in the road, Oedipus suddenly recollects something. This will likely be the black memory of Oedipus's crime, which he must confront that Thebes may be spared the wrath of Apollo.
“But his child had not been three days in this world before the King had pierced the baby’s ankles and left hum to die on a lonely mountain.” (pg. 38)
ReplyDeleteThis quote is said by Iocaste when she is talking to her husband Oedpius about who killed the king. The quote is important because Iocaste does not believe in the prophecies about how Lios’s son killed him. She went out to kill her own child, which did not work, just to keep the king safe. This is why she does not believe in soothsayers because she did what would stop the killer. Also, this quote is ironic because Oedpius is her son who she thought died. This helps the plot grow because if the prophecies are true then Oedpius killed his father but does not know it.
Nik Toor
ReplyDelete"If I was created so, born to this fate, Who could deny the savagery of God? (44)"
The tale Oedipus Rex is all about questioning fate and seeing if you can change it if you know what it is. I think it is ironic how Oedipus basically forced his fate to come true, even though that is what he was running away from after hearing a prophecy of his future. By running away Oedipus wandered into his real father not knowing who he was and killed him.
Tori Weisel
ReplyDelete"You do wrong when you take good men for bad, bad men for good (32)."
Oedipus is accusing Creon of plotting against him after Creon brought in a prophet that said Oedipus killed his father. Oedipus is worried and confused by the prophecy because he thinks that it is impossible that he killed his father because he thinks he left him behind and killed strangers. This makes him question Creon for bringing this prophet because if his prophecy comes true and Oedipus gets banished, then Creon would become more powerful.
Erik Enselman
ReplyDeleteNow twice you have spat out infamy. You'll pay for it! pg 20
This is Oedipus' reaction to Teiresias when he told Oedipus that he was the killer he was looking for. Oedipus was the one who killed his dad who was the king. This is important to the story because it shows that Oedipus was involved in the killing of laios. Oedipus didnt think his fate would actualy turn out like this.
Jenny Hergert
ReplyDelete"An honest question. But no man in the world can make the gods do more than what the gods will." Pg. 15 Oedipus
This statement connects with the most major theme in the Oedipus Rex plotline: The idea of destiny, prophecy, and whether a person is absolutely bound to their given fate. Oedipus says that the will of the gods can never be manipulated or changed, but this is before he hears Theiresias's prophecy. Immediatly after he comes to the realization that Teiresias was telling the truth, Oedipus tries to avoid his fate at all costs; he tries to bend the will of the gods. Of course, as we will find out later, it cannot be done.
Jaina Shah
ReplyDeleteAt a feast, a drunken man maundering in his cups cries out that I am not my father’s son! Page 42
This quote is really important because it’s shows changes in his life cause he finds out the truth. He finds out that he is not the son of his father. Also, leads to a question find out who are my real parents. This is basically story began because; he is going solve the mystery of his life
Savannah Guillen
ReplyDelete“He was tall, his hair just touched / With white; his form was not unlike your own” (40).
This was Iocaste’s reply when Oedipus asked what Laios looked like. Just the fact that Oedipus looks like the king is another hint that he is actually the son of Laios and Iocaste. The realization of these small details is important as Oedipus begins to unravel the truth about the identity of his parents, and of the man he killed on the road many years ago, as well as his current wife.
Lexy Kaftan
ReplyDeleteListen to me. you mock my blindness, do you? But i say you, with both your eyes, are blind: you can not see the wretchedness in your life. pg 22
In this quote teiresias is implying that Oedipus is the one who killed his dad and is the one who should be killed or exiled. Oedipus still doesnt realize that he is the killer.
Gina Chenoweth
ReplyDelete“Where is a man more miserable than I? / More hated by the gods? Citizen and alien alike / Must never shelter me or speak to me- / I must be shunned by all. And I myself pronounced this malediction upon myself!” (43)
Oedipus believes that the gods hate him because they have caused him to curse himself. This quote is important because Oedipus is realizing that he cannot escape the fate the gods have for him, even though he thought he could. This important to the theme of self-control, because although Oedipus thought he could stop himself from killing his father, and doing everything that was predicted of him, he could not, and in his efforts to control himself, only made his life worse.
Leslee Fall
ReplyDelete"Be angry, then. Curse Creon. Curse my words. I tell you, no man that walks upon the earth shall be rooted out more horribly than you." (pg. 23)
This quote is important because it is showing what will become of Oedipus in the book. During this time he is being so ignorant of what Teiresias is telling him which is only making his fate more possible. By not being wise and letting himself be blind to everything that is going on around him he will suffer in his future. By the time he finds out that she was not lying though it will be too late for him to change his future.
Gina Tuthill
ReplyDelete"Now listen to me. YOu have talked; Let me talk, too./You can not judge unless y ou know the facts(pg 28" -Creon
When Creon says this, it was shortly after Oedipus says that he's trying to kill or get rid of him to take his place. But Creon is saying that he doesn't know all the facts of the murder and such that he was talking about.
But this shows that Oedipus' character might change from a friendly forgiving man to one that turns full of hate and possibly guilt. And that Oedipus might take it out on himself, the ones close to him or the city in which he rules.
Katie Martens
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"And I tell you what I think: You planned it, you had it done, you all but killed him with your own hands: if you had eyes, I'd say the crime was yours, and yours alone"-Oedipus (p19).
First off I thought this line was worth noting becuse of the irony. Oedipus is talking about if Teiresias had eyes, but she is the one who can see into the future. Also, this line tells a lot about Oedipis's character in that so far in the book he has been very defensive, and always looks to point the blame at someone else. He will do anything he can to make himself not look guilty. Finally, this line protrays a major theme in the book which is mystery. With a mystery, everyone has their own opinions about what happened and this line just shows one of them.
Samielle Foltz
ReplyDelete“Then once more I must bring what is dark to light.”(pg 9)
“For the day ravages what the night spares-”(pg 12)
“Your child of endless night! You can not hurt me/ or any other man who sees the sun.”(pg 21)
-Examples of quotes pertaining to light and darkness.
From what we have read so far Oedipus is the killer of his father. At the same time he declared to the people that he would track down and kill the man or banish him for killing the king. Before he wasn't aware that he had killed the king/father but after hearing the details as to how he was killed, confirmed that he himself was the killer. In a sense he was enlightened and aware of the series of events that had followed but was in the dark as to how they had come about. Repeatedly the use of light and dark is used throughout the play. The soothsayer is blind yet he is the light concerning the truth. Oedipus says “I must bring what is dark to light” when he is the one shrouding the truth. He also says to the soothsayer “You cannot hurt me/ or any other man who sees the sun.” he's making himself above the gods. When he was addressing the people in their moment of darkness, so to speak, he appointed himself as the light or their personal savior. He sent someone to obtain word from Apollo to obtain help from the gods. Yet, he says it was himself that enabled him to do great things, so basically he shuns the gods. He's full of opposites. He doesn't only play the people but he says one thing and yet believes in something else. I can't remember if that would be called a theme or something else but I'm sure we can expect this aspect of light and darkness to later be used throughout the play.
Brody Hovatter
ReplyDelete"An Oracle was reported to Laios once...that his doom would be death at the hands of his own son - his son, born of his flesh and of mine! Now, you remember the story: Laios was killed by marauding strangers where three highways meet." (pg. 38)
This is what Jocaste, Oedipus' wife (and mother) says to him after Oedipus tells her of the prophecy Teiresias relayed to him. Jocaste doesn't believe in prophecies, after the one about her son killing her husband doesn't come true. This is very important to the story, because little does Jocaste know that the prophecy does come true, and the man who killed her husband is in fact her son and her new husband.
Brian Gleadle
ReplyDelete"So you dared come back. Why? How brazen of you to come to my house, You murderer! Do you think I do not know that you plotted to kill me, plotted to steal my throne? Tell me, in God's name: am I a coward, a fool, that you should dream you could accomplish this?"
This quote is spoken by Oedipus, directed at Creon. Oedipus is accusing Creon of attempting to murder him and steal the throne for himself. However Creon goes on to defend himself. This scene is important because Oedipus is trying to determine who killed Laios and Creon holds information that will greatly help him.
April Dick
ReplyDelete"I say I take the son's part, just as though I were his son, to press the fight for him and see it won!" -Oedipus (14)
Sophocles seems to use any opportunity he can to create dramatic irony. Most of the dramatic irony occurs when Oedipus alludes to sight and blindness, but this particular line is almost painfully ironic because the audience knows King Laios is his real father and yet Oedipus is completely unaware. The irony becomes so blatant, especially in this example, that it's almost as if Oedipus brings about his demise willingly.
Garrett Johnson
ReplyDelete"Let me go home. Bear your own fate, and I'll/ Bear mine. It is beter so: trust what I say." -Teiresias (17)
Oedipus is taking everything that Teiresias is saying and throwing it back right in his face. Instead of understand where Teiresias is coming from and seeing the meaning behind his accusations, Oedipus denies his claims that he killed the king and wants him either exiled or killed. This develops the plot that Oedipus is one of the suspects for the king's murder, and that he is going to have to get defensive. This also develops Oedipus as a dishonest, accusing man.
Craig Thomas
ReplyDelete"by exile or death, blood for blood. it was murder that brought the plague-wind on the city" (pg 7)
This quote is signifying how the plague came about the city. The previous king was murdered by oedipus without oedipus knowledge. so at this point in the story oedipus has or is about to swear to throw out or kill this murederer who at this point without his knowledge is himself
Mark Galambos
ReplyDelete"I have gone free. It is the truth that sustains me." Scene I, page 19.
These words were spoken by Teiresias to Oedipus in the intense debate they had during the hearing. Oedipus is infuriated with the prophet, as he believes he is speaking falsely; Teiresias explains how he is the one who killed the previous king, and how he will become blind and poor. Oedipus is confused and outraged, in this common display of dramatic irony, the reader knows what the prophet is explaining and how Oedipus truly is the killer, yes he himself has absolutly now idea what he has done.
Dan McMillan
ReplyDelete"Too the children with whom he lives now he will be brother and father-the very same; to her who bore him, found in husband-the very same who came to his fathers bed, wet with his fathers blood. p.25
Oedipus doesnt like the truth about what he is being told about his children and how he killed his father. Slowly he is realizing the harsh reality that if he were to have kids, they would be his brothers becasue he is married to his mom. Therefor Oedipus is flustered.
Maxx Forde
ReplyDelete"Would you care for more? Do you wish to be really angry?"
"Say what you will. Whatever you say is worthless." Page 20
This quote develops Oedipus' character by showing that when he is shown flaws of his own, he reacts with ignorance. Even though Teiresias is a wise man, Oedipus doesn't believe him since it does not bode well for Oedipus himself. He refuses every word Teiresias says and renders it "worthless". It just shows what kind of person Oedipus is.
Jade Baumann
ReplyDelete"Rather let me vanish from the race of men than know the abomination destined me!" (44)
This quote is very important to the theme of the story. Oedipus think the Gods hate him because of the horrible fate they put against him. And when he thought he could control his fate, and escape what was coming, it only got worse. He killed different people than what his fate said, which only made his life more complicated. So now he is so caught up in what is happening in his life, having to do with what the gods are calling to happen to him, that he would rather not know what's going to happen, because he might make it worse again if he finds out.
Breanna Taylor
ReplyDelete"I must be shunned by all"
I believe this is an important quote because it speaks of Oedipus's pride, how it has evaporasted but he is also smart and knows that he is doomed with this horrible fate, and he must face it. I believe it shows great strenth to his character and the ongoing theme of nobility this play seems to have. The imagery it creates is Oedipus realizing he's screwed and accepting it rather than trying to trick the gods.